"....engaging in negotiations is just fine and is not "recognition" of anything, certainly not a "Jewish" state.  As Carl von Clausewitz said...."Der Krieg ist eine bloße Fortsetzung der Politik mit anderen Mitteln", (War is merely a continuation of politics). -- The converse of course is also true, negotiations, i.e. "politics", is merely a continuation of war.  If a nation state fails to negotiate, they deny themselves fifty percent of their capabilities to alter or improve their situation.  Being stubborn and stupid while over-estimating your capabilities is very romantic to some people;  it will also get a lot of innocent people killed.  -- The Jews of Israel care only about their plans for territorial expansion, they have no problem murdering woman and children. -- The Palestinians are defending their homes and lands, that's a moral advantage, something which means absolutely nothing to the Israelis or most of the population of the US-NRE and it will not stop the weapons that the US-NRE gave to Isreal from raining down upon the Palestinians towns and villages. - mpg - posted 11-08-09

"....talking implies nothing.  Look at the US-NRE, every word out of every single politicians mouth during the last ten years turned out to be an utter fabrication.  No treaty was ever adhered to by the US-NRE if the parasites running this government thought it was to their advantage not to do so.  Think of the ABM, think of the NPT, the Geneva Conventions, it's OWN constitution for Gawd's sake, think of what they did to the Native Americans.  They've NEVER HONORED ANYTHING!  The Israelis are no different, just as they've broken every promise they've ever made, just as they've violated every agreement they've ever signed, so they will do so in the future.  SO WHAT!  Not talking makes Hamas look stupid, intransigent and down right childish. - mpg - posted 08-01-10